"Actual Friends" podcast hosts Dave Rubin, Sage Steele, Jillian Michaels, and Dr. Drew Pinsky react to Susie Wiles' explosive Vanity Fair comments describing Donald Trump as having an "alcoholic personality," unpack the media framing around the interview, and debate whether this was an honest moment, a political misstep, or another example of narrative-first journalism; the crew also dives into the escalating controversy between Candace Owens and Erica Kirk, examining the conspiracy claims, audience incentives, moral responsibility in commentary, and whether outrage-driven content is reshaping conservative media dynamics; from Trump's response to the Vanity Fair article, to the broader question of why anyone trusts print interviews in 2025, to the heartbreaking and deeply human discussion surrounding Rob Reiner's family tragedy, addiction, mental health, and enabling, this episode explores media manipulation, political strategy, cultural tension, and the emotional cost of living inside a nonstop news cycle — with honesty, humor, vulnerability, and the kind of real conversation you only get when actual friends sit down together.

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01:53 Revisiting Susie Wiles' Statements
24:36 Candace Owens and Conspiracy Theories
45:04 The Rob Reiner Tragedy
47:30 Reflections on Addiction and Recovery
55:15 Honoring Rob Reiner's Legacy

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